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Kard Ayals
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As long as we don't get Code Geass: Lelouch of the Bored later on, the theory is fine.

But seriously, we need OVA's. Mostly about Orange and Spinzaku.
Xeoman
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Yeah.

Basically to elaborate on what I meant is that, it'd make no sense if Orange let Suzaku kill Lelouch like that, since his undeniable loyalty still remains with Lelouch. When he turned and grinned, whispering "Go forth Black Knight" or whatever it seemed like he was part of the plan. Also with the scene later on his farm, Orange looked happy, if Lelouch really died he probably wouldn't be a very happy camper. It seems like Orange knew about his possible immortality and was fine with that plan.

But then there's Suzaku, who cries as he stabs him, so he probably doesn't know.

It's sketchy I guess. Like I said earlier, I don't think I'll be totally for one idea over the other, both seem possible... I like the idea of Lelouch and CC being together forever though.
天国JOE
Posts: 2316/2999
Originally posted by Xeu
(like how Orange acted at the end, pretty much allowing Suzaku to do that and everything).
He was in on it, man.
Xeoman
Posts: 7659/11757
Yeah, there's still some holes here and there for the theory, but also against it too (like how Orange acted at the end, pretty much allowing Suzaku to do that and everything). I guess I could go either way concerning Lelouch...
天国JOE
Posts: 2313/2999
I really liked the ending, and that theory is interesting. I thought that cart driver was suspicious, and when C.C spoke like she was directly talking to Lelouch made me like "Whaaa?" (since I knew Lelouch couldn't pull a Marianne). That little theory just fits everything together. The whole Code business and how it works will always be a little wonky, though.

But yeah, Ep. 20-24 were silly, but I'm happy it ended on a good note.
Xeoman
Posts: 7655/11757
Actually there's some theories going around that I like...

Spoiler:

The Code is the power of immortality, which C.C. has. The 98th Emperor of Britannia, Charles, has the Code. He transferred the Code to Lelouch while strangling him in episode 21. Lelouch wanted this, and he deliberately told Suzaku to not interfere.

However, the Code does not activate unless receiver dies first. This is shown when the nun kills C.C. after transferring the Code to her. Charle’s Code activated when he shot himself. Here is one of the big misconceptions that most people have: The transfer of the Code does not involve death of the transferrer. The nun was crazy and killed herself after she transferred her code. VV was injured from the battle and died. So basically, after episode 21, Lelouch had Charle’s Code (inactivated) and C.C’s contracted Geass.

When Lelouch got stabbed by Zero/Suzaku at the end, his Code was activated. What supports this is that Nunnally got Lelouch's memories when she touched her, just like Lelouch did when he touched C.C. back in Narita. The only way this could have happened is his Code activating. This pretty much confirms that he has the Code.

Unlike C.C., and Charles, who lost their Geasses because the people who contracted them died, Lelouch didn’t obtain C.C.’s Code and thus kept his Geass, while having the Code (which he obtained from Charles at the same time). Lelouch therefore has achieved CODE GEASS.

Basically, Lelouch is the person driving the cart in the last scene. He, who is now immortal, travels the brand new world he has created together with the also immortal C.C. C.C. talks to Lelouch in the end by saying: "Geass is the power of kings, it will isolate you... well, I guess thats a little wrong... eh, Lelouch?"

Now comes the second big misconception. A lot of people say C.C. was just talking to the dead like with Marianne, that's not true. She could only talk to her because of the nature of her Geass which allowed her to implant herself into the "hearts" of others. That's how she was able to talk with Marianne. Lelouch's Geass was entirely different, meaning that she could only have spoken to him if he was there. Also, the fact that the cart driver is masking his features completely supports this fact, considering the fact that Lelouch is now considered dead.


So it's a good Lelouch x CC end? That's what I'd like to believe now.


I kind of like this idea better actually.

The ending was better than I suspected, I still think the whole season overall could've been much more though, still somewhat of a letdown compared to the first to me.
Kard Ayals
Posts: 2257/2915
There is only one character that shall remain dead.

Spoiler:
All hail Lelouch! Even in death.


All in all, Code Geass ended on a positive note, at least for me.
天国JOE
Posts: 2298/2999
Originally posted by Xeu
Definitely have no idea how Guilford lived ... what the heck.
Guilford's 'death' was so dramatic, though! Grargh, they pulled a Zero on him! (Rockman Zero, not Geass Zero)
Kard Ayals
Posts: 2255/2915
I seriously thought the episode was good until the final scene.

Seriously.

Lelouch should've opened Nunally's eyes forcefully and used geass on her for massive damage.
Xeoman
Posts: 7630/11757
I think one can only take so much bullshiz before it gets old. I really couldn't get into this episode at all and I think that'll be the case for the next one, there's been too many disappointments this season for me to really care anymore.

CC's like the only cool character now.

Cornelia is alive, I guess that's cool even though it seemed silly. Definitely have no idea how Guilford lived ... what the heck.

I could really careless if Kallen, Suzaku, probably even Lelouch, Nunnally, etc, all died.

In other shows I've seen directed by Goro he's pulled a "Alright we were all wrong, let's be friends" thing at the very end. While it worked in shows like Infinite Ryvius, Planetes, etc, I wouldn't find that to be very believable if it happens in Geass here. The characters have been way too flip-floppy and inconsisent for that to really work at this point. If that makes sense.

Basically I have no idea how this is going to end. I don't think it'll be that great though.
Kyoku kun
Posts: 992/1329
So yeah.

Cornelia's not dead, which is good I suppose. But how in the hell did Guilford survive?
I was actually kind of proud of Nina this episode, she didn't seem as horrible as I thought she was.
C.C is amazing, still.
and Nunnaly looks stupid as hell with her eyes open.
天国JOE
Posts: 2281/2999
Originally posted by Xeu
00 won't even have to try to beat this. Ugh.
Ho snap, I forgot about that for a second. GUNDAM 00 YEAH.

Episode 19 was the last lolawesome Geass one, pretty much (in my eyes).
Xeoman
Posts: 7608/11757
Haha, I've seen that one before, epic.

Now that I'm calmed down ... even though this'll boil my piss again:

- What the hell is Kallen on? Now she's hellbent on killing Lelouch? WHAT
- Cornelia, ultimate ultimate ultimate waste of a good character. R2 destroyed her completely. She was never good in this season, but this just ruined her.
- Schneizel is probably the worst villian ever. This episode made him look like a pretty typical villian too with simple motivations, "Kill! Kill! Kill!"
- Black Knights are really retarded. I'm looking at you Ohgi.
- They're trying to make us forget about how stupid Nina is.
- Lelouch and Suzaku are kind of dumb now.
- Nunnaly is really stupid. She'd turn on her most trusted friends and family in a second? Wow.

This truly should've ended with the Emperor and Marianne's death or whatever and with Lelouch becoming Emperor. This whole junk now just feels completely pointless, I can't bring myself to care about anything or anyone now.

CC was alright in this. Looked like she was planning something. Maybe buying out Pizza Hut to create a Pizza nuke that covers the Earth and causes everyone to eat delicious pizza to become happy and it's over, that'd be a good end.

00 won't even have to try to beat this. Ugh.
Kyoku kun
Posts: 979/1329
Augh, that's annoying.. ONE MORE TIMEE!



But yes, this episode was very annoying. There is basically no one now that I even care about knowing whether or not they die..
Xeoman
Posts: 7606/11757
Your picture doesn't work.
Edit: No I'm just seeing "Upgrade to Pro today!"

And this episode ................... rage. Terrible.
Kyoku kun
Posts: 976/1329


EDIT: Does it work now?
Xeoman
Posts: 7583/11757
Everyone dies.

The end?
Kyoku kun
Posts: 941/1329
Yeah, I was quite amused how the Knight of One basically got "Haha! My geass tells the future!" -dies. It was weird how fast that fight went.

I agree with what you said, it is Villains vs Villains now.. >.> =(
天国JOE
Posts: 2271/2999
I seriously laughed-out-loud when Suzaku totally owned the shit out of those Rounds Knights. They're Knight of Rounds, but got killed in 0.78 seconds. Ridiculous. However, after the Knight of One got totally rocked (so much for his Geass, which despite being good, only lasted as long as he did), I started getting annoyed that those characters were thrown away so easily.

Wasn't one of them Lelouch's sister?

Anywho, at this point is just seems to be Villains vs Villains. It's different, at least.
Kyoku kun
Posts: 940/1329
Originally posted by Xeu
Basically, Kallen's always been one of my favorite characters, but lately she just ... hasn't been that awesome?


Yeah, same here. Since recently though I've always thought of Lelouch and her as a pair, but now that Lelouch is being horrible, her personality is really changing. I mean, she's one of many people who are very confused with what the hell Lelouch is doing...
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