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Lord Vulkas Mormonus

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Since: 10-29-04
From: North Carolina, United States. World, Sol System, milky way

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Posted on 12-04-06 01:25 PM Link | Quote
Logos, I think that you don't understand me. All I'm saying is that if they vote, all they have to know is what they are voting for. Allow me to say this again, they must, if they follow my idea, must know what they are voting for.

The line is, as I said, 80% of about, say, twenty questions. The questions will ask about tax plans, plans for the current war(if one is going on), policy on more sensitive topics like abortion or same sex marriage, and various things like that.

Look at the snake example to see why. Think metaphorically, and tell me why those people should pick up a nsake if they know nothing about it.
Logos

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Since: 07-24-06

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Posted on 12-04-06 11:00 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Vulkar
Logos, I think that you don't understand me. All I'm saying is that if they vote, all they have to know is what they are voting for. Allow me to say this again, they must, if they follow my idea, must know what they are voting for.

The line is, as I said, 80% of about, say, twenty questions. The questions will ask about tax plans, plans for the current war(if one is going on), policy on more sensitive topics like abortion or same sex marriage, and various things like that.

Look at the snake example to see why. Think metaphorically, and tell me why those people should pick up a nsake if they know nothing about it.

Let me break up the main points into bite-sized chunks.

One is required to take government and economics in high school. That is about the equivalent of your entire argument.
The actual system would not be changed, as the greatest fundraiser or encumbent usually wins anyways.
What gives one the blatent right to tread over other's human agency?
In a democratic state, the idea of democratic ideals usally carry a great deal of weight. Therefore, I think it's safe to say that the democratic ideal of voting rather important.
I'm sick and tired of your snakes in this thread, tell them to get out.
The questions you state are underscored by their blatent subjectivity. Your definition of knowledge, ironically, is supposed to be purely empirical data.

Lord Vulkas Mormonus

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High Xeodent of Xeomerica.








Since: 10-29-04
From: North Carolina, United States. World, Sol System, milky way

Since last post: 245 days
Last activity: 228 days
Posted on 12-07-06 08:24 AM Link | Quote
People may take that class in high school, but they can easily forget it. Like me with chemistry, I forgot some of it when I took it last year.

Second, the snake is a valid arguement. I think that unless you can combat it, then I already won this arguement. Give one reason why that person should pick up the snakes if he has no idea about it, and assuming there are no other factors involved.

My definition of knowledge is how much you knwo this empirical data. You would be tested on how much empirical data you have stored in your brain. Combat the snakes or I'm going to stop replying to your posts.
Logos

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Since: 07-24-06

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Posted on 12-07-06 08:15 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Vulkar
People may take that class in high school, but they can easily forget it. Like me with chemistry, I forgot some of it when I took it last year.

Second, the snake is a valid arguement. I think that unless you can combat it, then I already won this arguement. Give one reason why that person should pick up the snakes if he has no idea about it, and assuming there are no other factors involved.

My definition of knowledge is how much you knwo this empirical data. You would be tested on how much empirical data you have stored in your brain. Combat the snakes or I'm going to stop replying to your posts.

I disagree with your definition, as your definition of knowledge only covers what is pedantic, and ignores the normative nature of knowledge. In short, I declare your definition fundamentally flawed, and therefore your entire case explodes, in a highly exothermic reaction.
Empirical data has no real value, as I have said, and you have not refuted. Your case is so riddled with holes that I really have no reason to address more flaws until you start to rebute them, which you haven't. The common practice in debate is that if the affirmative doesn't uphold their case, they automatically lose, while the negating side has no such burden, but to disprove the affirmation.
I'm sick and tired of these metaphysical snakes on my plane of thought. Vulkar should be tested for chemistry by being thrown in a next of poisonous snakes and then, given basic components, make himself an antidote, without the aid of multiple-choice questions. Just like a lab!
By the way, you need a resolution. It should be a concise sentence.
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